(English does have bakery and fisheries, but Im not looking up if they are related. Can someone recommend a good basic linguistics text. Or appalling. Individual-generic on one hand, and individual-collective(mass) on the other, where mass can be applied to fish that you eat (cow/bull beef), to fish in the river or a basket and to many kinds of fish. Dicionare ale limbii romne My impression is that historical linguists love company. I was not joking. Proto-Sinaitic is one particular form (the earliest by the interpretation of an origin within Egypt) of a more broadly, if meagerly, attested consonantal script called Proto-Canaanite, found at several sites in Syria-Palestine. that didnt look like any kind of Egyptian name for me, so I looked it up. The first version was published in the context of Salishan languages. In their spontaneous speech, as well as in sentence repetition and reading aloud, subjects resorted to substitutions and never produced nonwords. Investigating another Semitic language, Algerian Arabic, Mimouni and Jarema (1995) obtained results similar to those put forth in Grodzinsky (1984) in the performance of three agrammatic subjects. [.] ), Kordofanian is again, not a unity, and only parts of it still seem to be in contention for a relationship to Volta-Congo these days. My interest was merely clarifying what was meant. I dont believe that until somebody tries. All I can find is to throw, e.g., Hebrew . In the linguistic areas described above, the number and kind of shared traits vary considerably. En este ro ya no hay peces There are no longer any [live] fish in this river. But, regardless, I doubt whether Kitchen et al* even know why real historical linguists think that shared innovations matter. Though given todays news, it might have been more topical for me to find new scholarship on Kehf el-Boroud! If they had to choose a single basal node? Though not as cool as Oti-Volta, obvs.) Having followed the link to the South Arabian thread link, it struck me that unless he posts under a pseudonym, Trevor has to be one of the most influential lurkers in the hallowed history of bligging. I always understood that the sedentary Plains tribes declined because, after the introduction of the horse, you could simply live a lot better by buffalo hunting than by farming in that climate. Heres his magnum opus on Nilo-Saharan, where he ends up suggesting a link between East and Central Sudanic, unexplorable under current conditions but faintly suggested by some core evidence (see part 4 for details). Biology also benefits from the existence of ribosomal RNA genes, which have a number of properties that have made sequencing them an extremely powerful tool for developing trees. -er. But in the Levant and Mesopotamia, aside from Sumerian, we have Semitic dialects popping up whenever writing shows up, in cities at a distance from each other, that were not subject to the same kind of pre-historic central rule as along the Nile. Googling an issue raised in the paper, the probably spurious Oropom language, I wound up with a reference to a paper by Lameen. Where does the 3-D come from? Reading these excessively informative maps in an adventurous way, I can see ancestral Berbers being drawn toward lower Tunisia as the Sahara dries, from whence theyd occupy the mountains to the west. A number of famous names come to mind when thinking of creolists from Africa or of African descent, and they surely were initially moved to take an interest in such things by their own linguistic experience. * Development of a feminine gender and a major revamping of the verb system look pretty immodest to me but I know very little about this. it seems that salt-water fishing has always been quite a bit more important than fresh-water. Perusing Wrights grammar, I was surprised to discover that the Windhill Yorkshirese is a guttural language. Vydrin admits the evidence isnt definitive, but then rails against the extremes represented by the overly rigorous approaches of splitters and the too lax approaches of lumpers. Poletika was hm. There are so many fundamental things wrong with this reasoning that one hardly knows where to begin. Kitchen A. Ehret C. Assefa S. Mulligan C.J. For warm-blooded, air-breathing animals, it is well known that related species and subspecies tend to be larger nearer to the poles, where having a small surface-area-to-volume ratio helps them keep warm. Once you open the door (as Blenchs hypothesis does) to the idea of the Niger-Congo noun class system having arisen by diffusion from an unrelated group of languages, it seems to to me that the situation in Fulfulde and Wolof is more or less exactly what you would expect to see from further diffusion between language groups which may or may not be genetically related. shifted to the more common inflection type -os : -okse-. In la, drab is a word, and the omission of the prefix y results in a substitution of tense. ), Perhaps not even Ehret. And they both characterize the roots as good/very good candidates for cognates, weak candidates (um, Vydrin actually writes week candidates) and definitely different. Tower of Babel etymological database Bantu languages, a group of some 500 languages belonging to the Bantoid subgroup of the Benue-Congo branch of the Niger-Congo language family. Phonological innovations cant be used either, because very little in terms of regular sound correspondences has been worked out so far. No luck. https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article/30/R1/R17/6025449. [Old Church Slavic dictionary] Kitchen et al. Welsh is quite fond of making singulatives out of plurals, which then oust the original singular form, as with llygoden mouse = Old Irish luch (accusative lochaid), via the perfectly-to-be-expected regular plural form llygod. Catherine Obianuju Acholonu & Erich Fred Legner Review of a paper presented at the Conference on Indigenous Knowledge and the Challenges of the 21 st Century, Institute of African Studies, UNN, Nsukka. But I havent tried to read and understand their actual arguments yet. Thus, in acquiring the sound system, babies proceed from universal crying to uttering a range of speech sounds, followed by babbling, which is increasingly restricted to elements of the native language to a point where eventually the system will be so constrained as to impose a non-native pronunciation in other languages. Wikipedia defines it as a coastal, supratidal mudflat or sandflat in which evaporite-saline minerals accumulate as the result of semiarid to arid climate, but in Arabic it is a salt flat that is not necessarily supratidal. some 20% of the most basic vocabulary of this outlier language, and a bit of the grammar, is AA, https://www.oocities.org/gdvbqz/ling/eafricamap2.gif, Id say contact with AA is rather more plausible than contact with Khoe-San. In fact, contact with AA is an absolute certainty , (though Maarten Mous grammar of Iraqw, to be fair, says that currently, at any rate, there is little contact between these two groups apart from the Iraqw obtaining honey from the Hadza in exchange for tobacco.). [5] In German, OHG r primordial was compounded with ohso ox, giving rohso, which became the early modern Aurochs. (I created a handy summary of the various Moba verb morphology patterns for my own use: I manage to get it down to a mere twenty pages. No, it is exciting evidence of common roots of the two species! This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. Until recently mass/collective nouns suffixes were productive (I see this mostly in distribution in modern Russian) but have been suppressed in written langauge by, I think, translated literature (again, from distibution) and in spoken langauge by schooling. Because I would expect that hunter-gatherer societies would continue to fracture, and to survive fractally. familiar thing. The Bantu languages are spoken in a very large area, including most of Africa from southern Cameroon eastward to Kenya and southward to the southernmost tip of the continent. That such a continent-wide migration could occur is suggested by the example of the Fule pastoralists who have expanded eastwards from Senegambia to the borders of Sudan during the last millennium. That seems plausible. I prepared corresponding lists for each of the six source languages Chinese, English, Spanish, Hindi, Russian, Arabic, weighted in the original Lojban construction process relatively to the numbers of speakers: L1 + L2/2, where the Arabic source was MSA but total number of speakers of all colloquials were counted. And spoke me so, and spoke me thus: Oh, dallyings a sad mistake; in Oti-Volta () there is very noticeably more agreement among nouns than verbs, just as nouns are more borrowable than verbs, it might well be the case that if vocabulary remains from a substratum, verbs might be more liable to survive than nouns. The revolutionary discoveries at Ebla (Tell Mardikh) unveiled a hitherto unknown palatial state equal to Sumer, and an unknown Semitic language, called Eblaite, found on cuneiform tablets in the Palace G archive. It seems their data comes from this one paper. The Omani/Yemeni Arabic ayd that drasvi mentions, originally hunting, fishing, prey, game, quarry, catch, haul (cf. Barry Guy The article is part of an issue of Human Molecular Genetics surveying the genetics of Africa. @LH, so apparently you think that without morphology a genetic relationship cant be established. The Beringia of NW Europe. Having been away for a week, saved this post for last, looking forward in both excitement and exhaustion, but it appears that the comment thread is all about bad bayesianism again. Separated by a common language Along those lines, Claude Rilly seems to be doing some good work in settling the question of whether Meroitic was Afroasiatic or Nilo-Saharan (for sake of argument. Lionel Bender (1997) groups Berber, Cushitic, and Semitic together as Macro-Cushitic. Basic word order emerges very early indeed, first between phrasal constituents, only later within phrases. The Ugaritic writing system also differs from other Canaanite scripts to the extent that it does not consist wholly of consonantal characters, but includes in its graphemic inventory three CV syllabic symbols, representing a glottal stop followed by the vowels /a/, /i/, and /u/. Some is paywalled, but for instance, Ive just searched for one of the titles, Genetic Diversity of the Sudanese, and found a free version. So perhaps we should say that Blenchs classification is not so much wrong as un-useful; it leads us to draw conclusions that we are not actually entitled to draw. It is simply not necessary to distinguish them before making the dataset. Hebrew / sd~sid (Gen. 42:25, 45:21, Ex. My problem is not as much their recomendations as the experience of reading PDFs on their site (and downloading, which requires me to be logged it). I would propose as a compromise: paradigmatic grammatical evidence is often enough, phoneme for phoneme, the strongest type of evidence for a relationship; while lexical evidence is the most consistently available type. In: Bernd Heine & Derek Nurse (eds), A linguistic geography of Africa. Yes, youre right. * I suppose the basic moral of this story is that this is a false dichotomy. naukoobrzno scient-oid-ly (about somethign that can be science or not, but has appearance of science). If you simply assume that your claim is valid in such cases you are not acting as a scientist at all. If you compare Uralic vowels to IE consonant phonation (presentation slides, 2021, in Russian) and to IE secondary articulations (list published as a paper in a memorial volume, 2017, also in Russian), the number of plausible lexical matches rises quite steeply. Moreover, Oti-Volta shows clear evidence of, for example, new classes being created rather than inherited, and of entire semantic groups of nouns being transferred from one class to another diachronically. I tried to check earlier dictionaries. It partly confirms my version: if the word was coined in Russian by a translator under influence of Polish usage, it must be a Kievan translator. I asked his work; he dealt in coal, @Y and Rodger C. I am all ears to hear the evidence that, non-standardly, pescado now occupies some of the semantic territory traditionally held by pez. These times overlap with the dates for the Bronze Age origin and spread of Semitic languages in the Middle East and East Africa estimated from lexical data (Kitchen et al., 2009; Figure 2). Nowadays the big open-access megajournals have no problem taking them; the Journal of Negative Results has even stopped publishing and cited that fact as the reason. Theres an analogous question with Volta-Congo and Bantu: Bantu easily takes the prize overall for most complicated verbal agreement morphology*, and the Traditional View (boo! View of a small Early Bronze Age settlement showing domestic and industrial areas and rounded (silo) building. However, in a situation where the traits do coincide at a clear boundary, rare though this may be, the definition of a linguistic area to match their boundaries is relatively secure. Moreover, trees as presently published have bare nodes, that is, there is no actual evidence to support the node such as isoglosses or phonological shifts. He is objecting to the claim that regardless of quality of lexical evidence, in absence of grammatical reconstruction we cant establish a relationship. 1) fiske, fiskfngst. However, the Plains Indian model is incomplete, its evolution was forcibly interrupted by the US Government, so we dont know what would have been the end result. (Hausa has borrowed two; Thai has borrowed one through ten.). More specifically, Chilean Cachai? That should, strictly speaking, be Afro-Angelic, of course. As rigorous meant something very specific (an absolute bar to demonstrating a genetic relationship in your words) and as it is a very poor name for this, I thought that you and Ryan are likely to misinterpret the text that you were discussing. ), Theyre so intimidating that I never dared look inside! Bozzones law: in Greek, *hj > h, *hi > hi. is often put with Germanic *mati- (English meat, Old Norse matr food, Old High German maz food, meat, etc.) * Are Kehf and Kelif cognates, or different terms that both happen to be applied to this site, because these arent typos each term is used in different but formal and presumably accurate places. The eccentric but successful American businessman Timothy Dexter was persuaded to actually ship coals to Newcastle as either a practical joke or an attempt to ruin him. Schleicher published six years before the O.S., and he and Darwin exchanged letters. Its not so hard to imagine them just being dropped altogether. Someone else could comment on this more knowledgeably, but I dont like this argument., I dont like it too, but popularity of the profession indeed depends on (1) its prestige (2) other opportunities (3) finding people who just want to do it (who too feel better when there is a thriving community of enthusiasts). Linguistically, Egypt seems more parsimonious as a starting point. Its theory of an independent domestication of cattle doesnt seem to be supported by more recent genetic work, though my comment is based on nothing more than following a few google links. whereas fresh-water fishing is often limited to angling. I do recognize your point about the isolates being more prevalent as a challenge to my ideas. I thought this, by Blench, was extremely well written. (unless one of the authors was the best man at the editors wedding). Obviously, the bit about the spread of Semitic languages is of prime LH interest; heres a relevant snippet: Figure 2 shows Spread of Iran-like ancestry and Semitic languages. All this is way beyond my pay grade, but I expect better I give up with that one. The paper nicely demonstrates (what I would regard as) Blenchs strengths and weaknesses when it comes to language classification. No, I have no idea why it isnt uras as would be expected. This proposal and name have met with widespread acceptance. Eastern part of the family. recently I read Western Bantuists as Bantuists who speak a western Bantu. I wonder if there is an archaic word for fish found somewhere in Korean that represents what was replaced by mulgogi. When no migration events were fit in the TreeMix analyses, African cattle were the most diverged of the taurine populations (Figures 2 and 3), but when admixture was modeled to include 17 migrations, all African cattle, except for East African Shorthorn Zebu and Zebu from Madagascar which have high indicine ancestry, were sister to European cattle and were less diverged than Asian or Anatolian cattle (Figure 4), thus ruling out a separate domestication. The modern form is Auerochse. @LH, I just dont know. (The view that Anatolian split off first is close to becoming generally accepted; what that means exactly for the reconstruction of PIE and whether *mer- can be used to support that view is debated much more.). I suspect fish may be the sort of word that is fairly easily replaced by words originally referring to some particularly culturally important kind of fish (as has presumably happened with Tocharian B laks fish, for example.). In lb, however, *xdm is a nonword and, as a result, is not produced in isolation. Could this Iranian genetic component be connected to hypothetical metallurgists spreading their technical vocabulary across the fertile crescent? https://www.academia.edu/36487882/TOWARDS_THE_TRANSLATION_OF_MEROITIC_TEXTS_PROSPECTS_AND_METHODS. Erich Neu argued in his seminal Das hethitische Mediopassiv und seine indogermanischen Grundlagen, where he analysed how the r-endings spread during the attested history of Hittite texts and how that pathway differed from those in Italic and Celtic. The opposite idea, that Semitic originated geographically close to the other AfAs language families (so, in Africa), has been proposed a few times but not been widely accepted. Um by way of analogy would I be correct in saying that the Nilo-Saharan situation that you describe is basically as if. I though aha! and apparently ! Tucker, A. N. 1967. *kala has also been considered related to IE words for big fish like whale and Latin squalus. Yes, thats what I meant: with such an abundance of, hedge, pike, spike, pin, spine, tine, brod, iron, sea urchin, hengehog and other Cf. What methods? ], I suppose its conceivable in principle that where I would posit postvocalic *m in Proto-Volta-Congo, the actual segment was something like *, but it seems something of a stretch given the straightforward /m/ reflex in Oti-Volta, Adamawa, Bantu (its not isolated, either: Kusaal dum bite is cognate to Swahili uma bite (Proto-Bantu *dum-), Samba Leko lum; Gbeya dum- bite, tom- send .). Hadza people, Sandawe people, Twa people, Bangweulu Batwa, Great Lakes Twa, Kafwe Twa, Lukanga Twa, Nilo-Saharan, Kalenjin people, Maasai people, Samburu people, Bantu languages, Abagusii People, Kikuyu people, Luhya people, Bukusu, Afroasiatic, Iraqw people, Rendille people. And he has a real researchers gift of coming up with new interesting questions to look into. There is no similarity between Arabic languages( languages of Assyrian and Babylonians) which are called hebrew by some people with bantu languages Language Log And, Ive heard Starostins name a lot, but wasnt sure exactly what he focused on. This reminds me of the large number of metallurgical and agricultural words in Sumerian and Akkadian that are loan words from unknown origins. Im not sure how much of this comment is sarcasm, but there are a few ancient languages from the parts of Iran closest to Mesopotamia that have left records of a handful of personal names and other words: Gutian, Kassite, Lulubito say nothing of the better attested Elamite and Hurro-Urartian languages. >Can the apAdm software, distinguish between these scenarios?. that a locational word is used in the English participle. It means: if you fail to reconstruct morphology then lexical reconstruction is useless. Also, I think without the ability to compare to something like Meroitic, your statement about the age of the NES relationship isnt well-founded. It would be surprizing if any competent users of Spanish applied the word pescado to a live fish. First, it may help some to know that DM is quoting the Blench article, not a post somewhere above. How did that even get into their collection? Anyway: textbooks claim that Mande is N-K, Wikipedia does, this paper does NOT say it. For example, children do not need to learn that there are two main kinds of sound segments, consonants and vowels; that propositions distinguish between predicates and arguments; or that there are intransitive and transitive clauses, with one-, two-, or three-place predicates. Orbis Latinus The same with David L. Gold and Rodger C., (does pescada extend to all meanings?). The passage of time may have degraded the data beyond the point at which reasonable conclusions can be drawn any more. A model that places the ancient Mesopotamian language Akkadian as the most basal lineage of Semitic. So if Im talking about the origin of turtles, all mammals are the basalmost amniotes because the basal (!) You can say the same about any crank: If he believes the earth is flat, he is right to object to the round-earth hypothesis. You seem to have a charming but unhelpful (if one is searching for truth) fondness for cranks. It may be that the southern peoples (Pueblo Indians) were geographically defensible enough to survive, but they werent wealthy. Afroasiatic (Afro-Asiatic), also known as Afrasian or Hamito-Semitic, Semito-Hamitic, or Erythraean is a large language family of about 300 languages that are call Rabins Peshitta Biblical Aramaic; Rabin has Hebrew at 2800 BP (not 2600 BP). Centre National de Ressources Textuelles et Lexicales Urban (2007) would add mutual influence among the languages to the criteria, which would presumably keep out cases of linguistic areas based on a single diffused trait. Conversely, the idea of the expansion of a pastoral or hunter-gatherer language group across vast agricultural lands at a time when the advantage of the horse was unknown would be surprising to me. They split up Cushitic into five or more independent branches of Afroasiatic, viewing Cushitic as a Sprachbund rather than a language family. Germanic lax salmon) Slavic ryba. My next idea was professionalization (a source of jargon). Reminds me of Songhay akugun. In biology, there are so many interesting things you can do once you have a reliable phylogenetic tree that demand has outstripped supply lately. The comment on Pre-Sumerian substratum made my eyebrow go up. I dont think so, because it didnt it diphthongize. Kaleidoscope Yes: I think he was actually the first to point out that Bangime is not only not Dogon, but probably not provably related to anything. Naked Translations For one thing, my wife is besotted with her even though she bites (and apparently this is not a matter of the cats displeasure, but of a reflex of some kind well are cats named snakes with fur and feet); for another, I have lived my whole life commensally with cats and simply cant imagine doing otherwise. APiagetian orientation will explain them in terms of general cognitive principles and shared conceptual underpinnings which provide a universal epistemological basis for acquisition of linguistic knowledge (Slobin, 1985). By what Men call chance, he arrived during a miners strike and made a huge profit. We found an association between movement and admixture of populations in the region and the spread of Semitic languages. 4) why so many peoples called hedgehog by such a compound? Contamination from *du- He studied in Kiev and worked in SPb. I do wonder to what extent Akkadian, or a direct descendant thereof, was still the spoken language in the Neo-Assyrian and/or Neo-Babylonian empires and if so, how much relation it held to the written language of the contemporary cuneiform tablets. In this paper he reckons he has identified that the Meroitic works for brother and sister are NES by way of some special pleading and dialect cherry-picking, and then makes the claim that these two words alone prove statistically that the odds of Meroitic belonging to NES is 1 in 3,200,000. What he class hyper-rigorous is actually just what Indo-Europeanists, Uralicists, Algonquianists etc call rigorous: standard practice for real comparativists. As far as I can see from the Kitchen et al paper, they have compared their 25 languages as if they were working with a whole lot of contemporary languages. Clothing can be masculine or feminine depending on who is wearing it as I noted, it happens with diminutives here:). In a sense they did: they all spent centuries swapping words, calques, and constructions with each other. Its titled The Small Bang and it reports on a newly funded project to collect linguistic data on Bangime and other Dogon languages. It is just a dialect. The terms Hamitic and Semitic were etymologically derived from the Book of Genesis, which describes various Biblical tribes descended from Ham and Shem, two sons of Noah. The constants are the semantically salient human and liquid classes; elsewhere the systems get regularly remodelled and recreated. as independent units and the abstract analysis reflects a level of meta-analysis necessary for linguists but not the average speaker. But how much has changed in the two years! And my experience parallels yours: having first learned historical linguistics through a Romance lens (with some Indo-European), I was quite surprised to realize how little (good) work on (almost all) other language families had been done by comparison, and in the case of some language families the paucity of ANY solid work was enough to make one doubt the validity of the family in question. Not saying this contradicts your point. If the maximalist claim has been made and is widely believed in, and we disagree with the maximalist formulation, he is right to call if hyper-[.] It has a repeating background pattern of blue fading to white and back to blue. Locative going with middle voice seems odd semantically, though. His proposal is to do nothing until we have decent Afro-Asiatic and Khoi-San etymologic dictionaries:-). Have a look at some of his other papers and see for yourself. These are the ground-truth dates Rabin uses to calibrate his lexicostatistics. So the only remaining question is why he didnt go for hair or spike as the second element when he coined the word. Of course there are other issues, e.g. Gk. Kusaal tm send, Samba Leko (Adamawa) tum. Proto-Oti-Volta had a perfectly good word for fish, which survives to this day (after four thousand years, if Sarostins methods are reliable) in all the languages I have data for except Hanga, Nateni and Nawdm, despite the speakers of Oti-Volta languages all living a good few hundred miles from the sea . On reflection, the mediopassive -r would be rather different from the locatives involved in progressive forms: rather than being an integral part of the relevant construction itself, it would be a sort of reinforcement of the meaning already inherent in a mediopassive verb, emphasising that the effect of the action didnt pass over to any other entity apart from the subject. Exploration of genetic links between ES/CS, on one hand, and Saharan and/or Koman, on the other hand, is likely to be quite unproductive even if reconstructions for Proto-Saharan and Proto-Koman-Gumuz are produced. Final conclusions: 1. >Since you dont say what your source concludes, Ill just jump in to note that the ur- in aurochs is hardly ur- original. Transblawg The Migration Period vandalized the West Germanic tree pretty thoroughly. A ukud abak fished in the saltwater sea, while a ukud a dugak fished in rivers and lakes. The Bantu language family. David E.: [Blench is] good at writing, unlike one or two perfectly capable linguists one can think of, who have everything except the gift of clear exposition. Here you go (retyped by hand, so Ive used some abbreviations not in the original), from section 7.7 of Transactions of the Philological Society 100 (2002) p. 110ff,, the original Fuluffyan paper: We attempted to find the internal subgrouping of the WGmc family. The trick to make sure the noise is random enough for this to work is to make sure you arent really including the same character twice in different wordings (or, as Ive seen happen, seven times); with morphological data, that can be quite difficult (ultimately it requires more understanding of development genetics than we currently have), and with lexical data, its a failure of peer review in the original PIE is old enough for Renfrew paper. Ive posted it here before, but cant find it right now. But the question is how far east. Not so in West Germanic, where the whole mess was already established at the time of the earliest texts. Skinner A.M. 1975. Understanding Meroitic would give us something like Latin or Sanskrit. If you accept it in the strong formulation, Semitic (Semitic-1) must have arrived from Africa. No. But Sanskrit+Greek will get you faster to PIE than French+Armenian. 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