The only commonalities are the brutality of the machete vs. branding/scarification pen, being human life pawns in an organizational game, and slaves to a master. Why didnt Brandon Porter know this fact? I saw somewhere that it was released by nxivm to try and discredit Sarah, but I cant remember if I read it in an article or if it was in Seduced or maybe Indias AMA. Director and fellow ex-Nxivm member Mark Vicente also is interviewed in the episode, which features snapshots of Mack and Edmondson looking extremely friendly with one another, as well as many photographs of Raniere posing with multiple groups of women over the years. We had a massage table in there with sterile coverings, the cauterizing machine and other materials for branding.. \"The whole point was to experience pain and to overcome the pain, to be really strong, so they cut our flesh open without anesthetic.\" #InsideEdition Years ago, National Geographic removed their myriad of pictures of bare-breasted women on their pages. Sad. Id vote you remove these images and let people find the videos out on the internet on their own if they want to. Youve lost me and I suspect many other women. Hes too fucking lazy to actually try and accomplish something with them, whether that be for himself or some useful purpose or whatever, it doesnt matter. He thinks the Glazer civil lawsuit is full of shit and I disagree. They destroyed my career and my reputation. Naw this man needs hellfire, now. Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist. BEGAN!! Roberts began by stenciling the insignia, using carbon paper and a stylus, just below the womans left hip, she said. The brands depicting the initials of Keith Raniere were meant to symbolize . Nobody should watch it out of respect for these poor women and to be able to sleep at night. If I were her and had discovered that my so-called friends had tricked me into being branded with the initials of their polyamorous child raping boyfriend there might have been more than just a legal battle about that. Waukee is in Dallas County Iowa and is a Western suburb of Des Moines Iowa and one of the richest towns in the state. All Rights Reserved. Keith Raniere ran what he called a self-help group for two decades until his arrest in 2018. It described itself as a 'multi-level marketing company' - a pyramid-type scheme - and offered personal and professional development courses, each costing thousands of dollars. It does not have to be in everyones face. I watched it, it wasnt as disturbing as I thought it would be because of course the women are all super excited to do it and crying acting like its some amazing emotional breakthrough. He did claim, after all, to have had people killed for his beliefs. In 2007, Allison Mack, "Smallville" television star, joined Keith Raniere's cult/pyramid scheme NXIVM. I wonder if that played into who he selected to participate? Especially the evil slimy weasel lookalike lawyer. Hope he has tons of debt like most all the other lawyers! This particular analogy you are using is so grossly inaccurate. You make it seem like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. She did not consider the third possibility: that nothing wrong was done and that we were consenting adults participating with full agency. Judge for yourself what need there was to show them to these people with an EEG to record the subjects brain activity, galvanic skin resistance (GSR) to measure their physiological response, and a video camcorder or audiotape to record their facial or auditory reactions. Between January and May 2017, Roberts used a cauterizing tool to brand 18 of her fellow female followers as part of an initiation ritual. While my role is reporting, and the court is the venue for settling matters of controversy, I will defend the rights of plaintiffs to file a civil lawsuit without being harassed. The video of Sarah's branding is a bit different than she described/than I imagined Voltaire585 2 yr. ago Yep she was all very cheerful before and after the whole thing. Leave the video up lest we forget who and what Raniere is. Edmondson arrived at the house thinking she was getting a tattoo to mark her entry into what she was told was a secret sisterhood, but was instead held down on a table and branded with a cauterizing pen. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Im very disappointed that you would do this. Has she ever proven that it's not there? The Nxivm dead-enders are just defending their dear Vanguard, a stance that is as unpredictable as it is ineffective. Since the late 1990s, an estimated 16,000 people have enrolled in courses offered by Nxivm (pronounced Nex-e-um), which it says are designed to bring about greater self-fulfillment by eliminating. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Those Mexican women were likely living in poverty and had no where else to go but survive another day in cartel country. Photo: Todd Williamson/Getty Images for Amazon Studios. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. Maybe someday, things will get better. Honestly other than the nudity and the depraved cult, the actual event is not substantially different to watching someone getting a tattoo. There are apparently a dozen women who want to remain anonymous and, as, https://frankreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Narco_W10h-v-Zet.mp4, EXCLUSIVE: Frank Report Obtains 18 Video Clips That Comprised the 'Human Fright Experiment' - See It Here and Judge! Regarding "collateral," we have a bit to look at. You and I hardly ever agree, so we must be right. (Roberts said that branding was not associated with her medical work and Edmondson was not a patient.). Like I requested. That would be respectful to them, and the readers will still know they were bare even though theyre blurred. He just likes to torment, humiliate, and destroy. Shouldnt all people be able to freely and fluidly adapt their opinions of a situation as they come to know more of the truth about it or is that privilege reserved only for you? It was to better understand people with depersonalization or derealization I was told. India and Catherine Oxenberg discuss the Nxivm and share the details of India's branding ceremony. I cant believe a responsible reporter would post either the video or a still from it. This story has been shared 107,238 times. Could that be because her branding video proves she did not weep the whole time as she told the New York Times? Waukee, IA 50276 Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. A 2010 Vanity Fairarticle revealed how two heiresses to the Seagram brand spent around $100 million to "help finance NXIVM and the alleged investment schemes of its leader Keith Raniere." Join . However, you seem to be glossing over the fact that Sarah was branded without true informed consent. Not those sad defenseless women! (2) if you are in any legal proceedings, stay off the internet. He was known as 'DOS' in the cult, which victims say stands for "dominus obsequious sororium" - Latin for "master over the slave women". A state Department of Health hearing committee. Sarah Edmondson said she thought she was getting a tattoo when she willingly participated in strange initiation ritual for a sorority that she says is associ. I was mortified and told him that it was not truthful in how they spun it. Nevertheless, she added, My employer would not renew my contract.. This was a way to help women surrender and realize that they can take pain. #SeducedSTARZhttp://starz.tv/WatchSeducedYTYou can watch Seduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult internationally on STARZPLAY in the UK, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Canada, Brazil, and LATAM.Subscribe to the STARZ YouTube Channel: http://bit.ly/1kalhP0Like STARZ on Facebook: http://starz.tv/STARZFacebookYTFollow STARZ on Twitter: http://starz.tv/STARZTwitterYTFollow STARZ on Instagram: http://starz.tv/STARZInstagramYTVisit STARZ on YouTube: http://bit.ly/1mkHKgZSeduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult chronicles the extraordinary and harrowing journey of India Oxenbergthe daughter of Hollywood actress Catherine Oxenberg and a descendant of European royaltywho was seduced into the modern-day sex-slave cult NXIVM. Buy them online. How are these videos different in terms of providing the information necessary to make informed decisions? Among other things, the Fright Study involved showing human subjects an actual video of the horrific and brutal murders and dismemberment of four women by machetes; and violent film clips, including a male African American being viciously stamped by a Nazi; a conscious male being forced to eat a portion of his own brain matter; and a graphic gang rape. What was shown to the subjects of the human fright experiment was real murder of four women. A self-described self-help group, NXIVM was placed under the spotlight in 2018 when former members made a series of shocking revelations about the group. NXIVM leader Keith Raniere Ed Ney York. The Milgram experiment(s) on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. Simply because you dont know who these women are doesnt mean it is ok this time. We know keith is lazier than hell and hasnt come up with an original thought in his life. If something developed between us, I would have been open to it., In 2016 Roberts joined DOS. I will begin with the wholly unnecessary and very suspect Human Fright Experiment conducted on behalf of NXIVM for reasons that remain unclear. Sarah is perfectly entitled to change her mind after learning the full truth of what was really happening. It was certainly no The English Patient. NXIVM was founded by Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman in 1998. In an exclusive Dateline interview with NBC News' Kate Snow, Dr. Danielle Roberts speaks out about her role in the multi-level marketing company NXIVM. I tried to pack all the keywords in the title; basically, if you've seen or read anything about the recently-exposed cult NXIVM ("subsect Dos"), you might've heard about the video of the branding that was leaked by the Mexican news and shown. We've received your submission. No other reason. But dont take the images down. You wouldnt want to be kicking or jumping, so as not to mess up the brand., She added: The women getting the brand wanted to be secured., In her book, Edmondson describes the branding as permanent trauma to my consciousness. But Roberts claims that Edmondson has run a fear campaign and convinced [former members] that they were abused., The ceremonies took place in the Clifton Park, NY, townhouse of Mack, in a room that was [formerly] an office or bedroom, Roberts said. Analysis? Kaczynski was a mathematical prodigy, a legitimate genius. Was this video used as a show of power to illustrate what keith could make happen? There are apparently a dozen women who want to remain anonymous and, as Frank Report readers know, Suneel and his wolf pack are threatening to name every plaintiff on their websites or social media. I chose not to watch that type of movie and if forced to, not only would I sue I would make one of them come and watch what happens when trauma is triggered. Maybe some bars? Did I call on those skills? ", Another echoed: "Wowwww they really branded these women. Reminder Keith did these fright experiments because he was infatuated with psychopaths/sociopaths/Luciferians, etc. But dont convince a girl that having sex with you is something she needs to do for her own growth., Ive heard of women, many women, signing lifelong vows to only have sex with Keith, saysEdmondson, who criticizes Ranieres practice of sleeping with his Nxivm lieutenants and students as a conflict of interest., Theyre there to learn. It just caused me to pause. That was the point., Besides, Roberts added: With the 18 I did, none backed out.. The women in the snuff film didnt have a choice to be filmed, have their top taken off, be brutally murdered. I'm guessing it was Nikki, as in Seduced according to India they were instructed to delete everything about DOS, so I wonder if a lot of Sarah's collateral got deleted and that was the only thing Nikki had left to try to shame her. Do not watch if you are sensitive to such material. Mengele Brandon will get the message across. No consent without the luxury of changing their minds and becoming plaintiffs in a civil suit. (3) Keep your mouth shut because anything can be used against you even if you cant think of how. After all, NXIVM had a lot of connections in Mexico. Too bad they had to ruin the nice tittie video by killing them. I looked presentable because it was very meaningful to me. The other women were necessary in order to hold down the person being branded. I dont know the answer and unlike some, I wont pretend I do. Sarah shares her harrowing experience with Traci Stumpf on Crime Obsession. After all? NEW YORK (AP) The unrepentant former leader of the cult-like NXIVM group was ordered on Tuesday to pay $3.5 million to 21 victims of a sex-trafficking scheme, a sum including the cost of surgically removing scars from branding rituals performed by a secret sorority. All the women of DOS now have choices. If you didnt know, you can find copies of ranieres methods described in the patent application titled: DETERMINATION OF WHETHER A LUCIFERIAN CAN BE REHABILITATED. In her book Scarred, former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson refers to the video-recorded ceremonies as a sadistic type of conditioning., But Roberts disagreed. We took the furniture and pictures out. He was part of a study group of 22 students and endured torturous human experimentation for three years. It was beautiful, said the 40-year-old, who herself was branded with the insignia. Shes hot! It is up to the judge to decide whether parties in the civil lawsuit may name plaintiffs who wish to remain anonymous in their filings. If you or someone you know is dealing with spiritual abuse, you can call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 18007997233. It means, in this court case, she considered me a victim. India also shares that she was sleeping with Keith Raniere, and she had no idea other girls in her DOS group were also sleeping with him.Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheDoctorsFollow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thedoctorsFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedoctorstvAbout The Doctors:The Doctors is an Emmy award-winning daytime talk show hosted by Dr. Ian Smith. Brinks- Very interesting and I think highly likely, Ice 9. I think it should and must be heard in a court of law and damages must be paid to victims. Besides? No biggie. India shares she later learned she was branded with the in. Imo. They are surrounded by 13 masked men, purportedly hitmen from the Los Zetas, a Mexican criminal syndicate, with their rifles pointed at them. At the time that video was made, Sarah did not know that keith was the grand master of DOS and that the brand was his initials. Was the brainwashing that complete that no one questioned the result of the electrodes on their heads? I say keep it. Ive speculated that keith got the idea for Human Fright Experiments from the life story of none other than Theodore Kaczynski, aka The Unabomber. As always, glad to have a forum to discuss these matters freely. They took my medical license, which cost me $300,000 in schooling. The people of Waukee Iowa deserve to know the ghoul living in their midst. Tolerance for pain impacted the time I would spend [with the cauterizing stylus on her skin], Roberts explained. I oppose his and other Raniere supporters efforts to try to blow up the case.. Nada. The mere fact that you report about this video, and its use by dD. Roberts has no regrets about the branding or her own involvement in the cult. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Soon after, the complaint was reconsidered. Instead, she found herself pushed into a modern-day. Didnt the 40 people who were watching this have the realization that they could just close their eyes? right.. its so sick and awful they have the audacity to show such footage/photos.. these women did not deserve this & for them to keep this photo of their breasts up is disgusting.. they are literally using crime photos of nude women and their death for clout this is wrong they should not link the video either just sick they posted this .. imagine if one of these women where someone they loved and cared for i wonder if they would still be posting/sharing the footage? "A t least forty members of the NXIVM community, trusting in Raniere, Nancy Salzman and Defendant Dr. Brandon Porter, M.D. By 2016 she and Raniere developed a workshop series that claimed to relieve physical ailments, such as chronic back pain, by re-patterning clients bodies through different postures, exercises and manual adjustments., She describes her relationship with Raniere as platonic, but did say: He kissed me romantically once. Mack was one of several specially selected NXIVM members chosen to become "masters," who would recruit additional women into the group as "slaves.". Hopefully new details regarding the members and activities will come to light. Frank, why would you use that photo as a thumbnail on your website? Waukee Police and Fire Department Bad judgement on this one. 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