R&S takes all care in the preparation of information appearing on the site, but accepts no responsibility nor warrants the accuracy of the information displayed. MIJA RIEDEL: And do you think she did not either? Yeah, thank you. What a brilliant way of answering that brief. 0000003606 00000 n MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Dorothy was wonderful. NEIL WILLIAMS: Loughlin, Noel. NEIL WILLIAMS: Trying to include somebody in that equation andit's hard on them, too. MIJA RIEDEL: Listening to [. And insights ofhow the mind works, how the creative mind worksyou know, how the primitive mind works in relation to creativity. NEIL WILLIAMS: and she seemed to intuitively know how to handle her and what would be the best way for her. NEIL WILLIAMS: It was elusive; it was not subtle. Was there a syllabus of any sort? MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. These photos are dated '74. I was content to just whoever connected with it, whoever wanted to rep it, wasRena was amazingly helpful. Or I gothere's a certain health and comfort and a revitalization of my energy knowing thatI'm doing the right thing for myself and my work and everything's going to okay, as long as I don't stress too much about it. You have to understand thermo-dynamics. Berkeley.". We haven't really talked about that. Our deepest condolences and heartfelt prayers are with the family and friends. I've known them first-hand. Located in the Donald W. Reynolds Center for American Art and Portraiture (8th and F Streets NW), Size: 5 sound files (4 hr., 9 min. So, he was very involved with the light railway station down there, and he alsothere's a series of domes, a cluster of domes over here that were built, NEIL WILLIAMS: some time ago, over. NEIL WILLIAMS: But isn't that the case with so many great artists in history? NEIL WILLIAMS: Were there profound changes or memorable. So straight line, you've got analytics and rational architecture and structure. Parents owned the local feed store. You could tell she reallythat was ashe was driven by that. What a loss. She'd teach all day and then she'd go and work in the studio until 2:00 in the morning, or I'd work for her until midnight and go home on Friday night and collapse, and I'd get a phone that'd ring at 7:00 in the morning, and the conversation would be like, "Oh Neil, Rena called and the Red Woman in the Dress, and Charles [Fiske] asked if you could do this, and wondering so-and-so is coming over to see it at noon," and it was all scattered. 0000010881 00000 n She made us sing Shakespeare. Amazing early 70she's African-American and Creek Indian, so he's a Buffalo Soldier. She was very active, and I really was grateful for what she did for me. I wasn'tit wasn't driven like Viola was, or so many other artists, you know. A natural presenter and storyteller, Neil is a great client-facing guy and clients love him. Because once boredom sets in, or once you, you know, you talkyou see so many artists or crafts people who go one automatic pilot, and the work loses its' soul, and it shows. And it's been very liberating, it's been very freeing. NEIL WILLIAMS: He said it was hysterical. MIJA RIEDEL: Would you talk about a piece or two? But Viola and Charles' relationship is, like I say, more of artists and sharing the same space, and in mutually enriching each other's lives. There were some reallya lot of good moments. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because she wassometimes it was hard for her to communicate with people or with students. Neil is a thoroughly decent person who won't let you down and a creative without 'the attitude'' that so often comes with such talents. NEIL WILLIAMS: But, she wasjust extraordinary and raw, pure energy and just that her tenacious way she devoured images and devoured the process of making stuff and working with color and form, and fluidly between two and three dimensional like that was really rare. NEIL WILLIAMS: She might not want to have admitted it, you know. And the tragedies arewe all have tragedies. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: So there is some childhood playfulness aspect of it, which I think is okay, as long as it's not too light, and as long as it doesn't diminish, I think the effort, or that it's been a life-long body of work. MIJA RIEDEL: This is not when it's green, right, though, this is after it's been bisqued? MIJA RIEDEL: That's a point worth making, because you haven't had a regular teaching job, you haven't had a regular, MIJA RIEDEL: It doesn't seem like there's a regular production pottery practice either, so. But she was talented and had a great eye. NEIL WILLIAMS: and attempting to tell stories. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, it was in herin relation to how she loved being around students, and how it filled a kind of a void for her. MIJA RIEDEL: and that he really had a poetic heart and spirit and that [the war had really MR] left its mark. They're quietly sneaking in the back door of some really nice places.". Yeah, so, but that's just another recent friendship that's been real important. Andbut he was a mad cobbler because he was a shoeleather and shoe smith, and we'd call him the mad cobbler. And, her pieces were getting larger and larger and larger because, sectionally, we could handle it. And they likethen there was this huddle. And I love the idea of taking an asymmetrical, or symmetrical shape, and making it asymmetrical. I wanted to touch on those today. NEIL WILLIAMS: I think. NEIL WILLIAMS: because it brought in painting and color concerns, which I had no experience in. WebRacing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. That makes sense for those pieces. Uh-huh. The interview took place in at Williams' home and studio in Auburn, CA, and was conducted by Mija Riedel for the Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution. He did some time forlet me see, just dealing in weed or something. I remember one of the great stories about that, about making so much work wasoh my God, when she had an open party, like a little dinner party and Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel Neri had come and a bunch of other people, and Rena Bransten, and, of course, who luckily was repping her by then, NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, because I just think it wasI just think the world of Rena and I. And at the same time there wasI think my ability to work on any scale fluidly helped to reinforceI mean, not that they're comfortable, they're work. So the walls stay intact, but they're separated? MIJA RIEDEL: Who gave you the bag of clay? NEIL WILLIAMS: It was the proverbial eye image. Unclassified cookies are cookies that we are in the process of classifying, together with the providers of individual cookies. NEIL WILLIAMS: and what she needed, and how to help maximize her output safely, and still maintain their own sense and wits about them compounded by the extreme physical demands. MIJA RIEDEL: You were mentioning a younger friend who has been a significant part. [Trials] just come, Elder Andersen said. And, of course, she'd make deals, you know, "I'll pay you so much a month whether you work or not." But theyI mean, be able to sit out here in the evenings and occasionally see a peregrine falcon fly by at 150 miles an hour or an eagle. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, it was always, like she saidagain coming out of the Crocker retrospectivewhich was our first major, like, together, helping her install pieces because there-she had stuff delivered there that I hadn't seen before, and was like, "Will you put all this stuff together?" What do they want to do? NEIL WILLIAMS: He thought it was beautiful, the little old ladies hanging up. MIJA RIEDEL: Now, would you describe your childhood? Do you have a recollection of Rena introducing Viola to Patterson? And, hearing quotes echo in my mind, or replaying experiences help bolster my feeling of solidity, and it helpsironically it helps control the working process. NEIL WILLIAMS: Okay. 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WebNeil Williams Cyber Security Expert for Lawyers & Professional Service Companies. New York , NY 10010, Washington, D.C. Headquarters and Research Center. And he was harmlessgot caught selling weed in the wrong time. What a brilliant way of answering that brief. NEIL WILLIAMS: I wasn't there, but I think that's whathe came in and out of consciousness; he said it was hard"There she is!" NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there was a friend who had gotten several pairs and she called them "The Keys of Life," and my concept was in the paintedthe straight line painted ones. Just, anything I needed, she would give to, as far as materials or whatever you wanted to do. [Affirmative.] At certain times I question, "Oh my gosh. And it was also, like I was trying to get at filling theimage filling the gap between the thought and the spoken word. But, the other rub about that was myit's not a rub, it was a good thing. They were trying tothey had a healthy rivalry of who discovered which image first, who used it first in which painting. Who do you complain to? You were born in Oakland in '59? What a different way of thinking about an audience. And him and his friend, during a drunk night and dinner, conceived of them. NEIL WILLIAMS: But it's evolved slowly. The power and blessings of the priesthood, including those found in the temple, are essential. Jointly published by the Deseret News and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its content supports the doctrines, principles and practices of the Church. Williams was Viola Frey's studio assistant. And, like I said, the exposure and the whole role of gallery and public places, it completes the circle of experience for an artist. They were having to dress him and shave him, and he was still doing some spectacular paintings. I needed anything." NEIL WILLIAMS: Spent some time even with Thiebaud on some workshops. You do not stay attached to it." MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: They just had me in the back room working, and those guys and the localhim and the local principal, so supportive, they were always giving me POs to go get more materials. Format: Originally recorded as 5 sound files.Duration is 4 hr., 9 min. MIJA RIEDEL: What we're hoping for are your candid thoughts and memories of your experience. Thats a way of ministering and thats a way of using technology and social media for good. NEIL WILLIAMS: And unless you understood, and you could fill in the blanks, where with some students it was just like "What is she talking about?" It's just, you say, "All right, let's make it workable or manageable," and you find those small golden moments in the course of a day or an experience with someone thatit's like my brother, one of my brothers was a real talented guy. It was the largest sculpture I think ever that year in Europe," or something like that. I'm feeling much better.". My memory is a bit hazy bit i recall going to warwick farm one day. Seems that you work has, over decades, been about theme and variation, and always with a focus on color and form, MIJA RIEDEL: and, in particular, it seems the vase form, the teapot form, and the cup have been almost canvases that you have workedyou've constructed and deconstructed over decades. They're going to be there, aren't they, Neil?" So would you make dinner sets? MIJA RIEDEL: and the evolution of the bronzes. MIJA RIEDEL: and you talked about how instrumental Rena was to Viola's career, what a difference her arrival in Viola's life seemed to make to getting her work out there. NEIL WILLIAMS: But he's one of our pride and joys, and we still think about him and talk about him a lot. He says, "No, I'll show you when I get back." WebWilliams was born in 1934 in Canada and educated in Wales, where he first learned to fly in 1951. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, she's got a great level of appreciation for arts, and she's been really, really good, reallyshe's tough though, too. "No, art is about art!" But, I know they were very affectionate, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: We had spoken earlier evenMark Twain and H.P. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh my gosh, where did it come from? NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I do a variety of other things. . And it was two floors, and hundreds and hundreds of pieces. So, he came up and started work and my mother stayed down there because apparently it was a little less expensive, sobut, grew up in this area. NEIL WILLIAMS: I think it becameshe stillshe keptstill kept the great detail. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so the early activating surfaces, andso the color influence was seeing what she was doing with color, and also looking and seeing what other artists in history were doing with color. 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